The Kingdom

I’ve named the last category of questions by the disciples in the Gospel of Thomas as ‘The Kingdom’. Again, these are just the questions.

What I think is important to consider about these questions is the disciples thought Jesus knew the answers. Unlike the questions that I grouped in the area titled ‘Blindness’, where the apostles wrestled with understanding who Jesus was, in these questions they understood who he was and believed that he knew of the ‘Kingdom’. If this is so, then it reinforces my assertion that the sequence in which the sayings of Jesus are presented in the Gospel of Thomas is not the sequence in which they occurred. (Else wise how could the questions that exist sayings 20 and 22 be asked by someone who later asked the questions in sayings 43 and 91.)

The Kingdom:

(18) Tell us how our end will be.

(20) Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like.

(22) Shall we then, as children, enter the kingdom?

(51) When will the repose of the dead come about, and when will the new world come?

(113) When will the kingdom come?

Housekeeping

Within the sayings of the Gospel of Thomas there were three sayings, containing six questions, that are ‘housekeeping’ in nature. By housekeeping I mean that they were either about how the disciples were to conduct themselves or what rituals were to be observed.

Again, because I’m less interested in the answers to the questions right now than I am in what these folk asked of Him, I’ll pass on providing His responses other than to opine on what I believe the meaning of His responses, at a high level, indicates: He provided no directions for forming or maintaining a ‘church’ or an organized following.

Keep in mind that the answers to the questions asked in Saying 6 are found in the first two sentences of Saying 14 (this is my take). Without a drum roll or further blathering, the questions were:

(6)  Do you want us to fast?  How shall we pray?  Shall we give alms?  What diet shall we observe?”

(12) We know that you will depart from us. Who is to be our leader?

(53) Is circumcision beneficial or not?

Blindness

I took a little time yesterday to look at the questions that were asked of Jesus by his apostles in the Gospel of Thomas. Essentially I just looked at the questions that where asked of him and not any answer that was given. I quickly realized that the results could be pigeonholed into three categories. I think of them as: “Housekeeping” , “Blindness”, and “The Kingdom” .

I’m not sure what this little (and very quickly done) exercise tells us other than this was a pretty unimaginative and self centered group of folk.

To me, the most interesting question asked of him was not by an apostle, it was by Mary. It’s odd that the question she asked could not be neatly tucked into any of the three categories, it reads ” Whom are your disciples like?”

Anyway, here are the four questions that were asked that fall into the ‘Blindness’ category. I title it blindness because they could not see who was before them.

(24) Show us the place where you are, since it is necessary for us to seek it.
(37) When will you become revealed to us and when shall we see you?
(43) Who are you, that you should say these things to us?
(91) Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you.

Chronology in Thomas

As I read the sayings in the Gospel of Thomas, I have to constantly remind myself that they are not given in chronological order. Consider sayings 43 and 13.

(43) His disciples said to him, “Who are you, that you should say these things to us?” Jesus said “You do not realize who I am from what I say to you. ” [shortened]

In Saying 13 Jesus turns the question around on the disciples:

(13) Jesus said to his disciples, “Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like.”

Simon Peter said to him, “You are like a righteous angel.”

Matthew said to him, “You are like a wise philosopher.”

Thomas said to him, “Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like.”

Jesus said, “I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out.”

And he took him and withdrew and told him three things. When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, “What did Jesus say to you?”

Thomas said to them, “If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up.”

The Provenance of Thomas

As we read what Ron Cameron writes on the Gospel of Thomas, we need to remain cognizant that there are other works that are ascribed to Thomas.  Some of these works are dated to the third century, while the Gospel of Thomas is said (depending on who does the saying) either in middle of the first century (some few years after the death of Jesus) on the first part of the 2nd century.  Cameron says: 

The fact that Judas “the Twin” was the apostolic figure particularly revered in Syriac-speaking churches is important evidence for the date and place of composition of the text. For as Koester (in Layton 1989: 39) has shown, Gos. Thom.’s identification of this author as Jesus’ brother Judas does not presuppose a knowledge of the NT, but “rests upon an independent tradition.”

In addition, the peculiar, redundant name Didymus Judas Thomas seems to be attested only in the East, where the shadowy disciple named Thomas (Mark 3:18 par.; John 14:5) or Thomas Didymus (John 11:16; 20:24; 21:2) was identified with Judas in the Syriac NT and called Judas Thomas (John 14:22).

The occurrence of variants of this distinctive name in the Acts of Thomas is especially striking, not only because the latter evidently shows acquaintance with Gos. Thom. 2, 13, 22, and 52, but also because it is widely held that the Acts of Thomas was composed in Syriac in the early 3d century. Other documents that invoke the authority of Judas Thomas by name are also of Syriac origin, such as the Teaching of Addai,the Abgar legend (Eus. Histl. Eccl. 1.13.1-22), and the Book of Thomas the Contender (NHC II, 7).

Around the Farm

Postings have been slim for the last couple of days and will probably be just as sparse through the Thanksgiving holiday.  

I’ve been in the ‘shoot-house’ a lot over the last couple of days, we are covered up in deer and I’m really wanting to knock down one of the several eight points, or one of the two ten points I’ve discovered on the game-cams.  I’ve been seeing plenty of deer, but not the ones worthy of pulling the trigger on.  Yesterday afternoon I had 8 deer within 50 yards of the shoot-house at the same time.

We put the hay-rings out and loaded them with a couple of 5×6 round bales.  Probably could have waited another week, but the grass has been eaten down pretty well.  We have enough in reserve that it doesn’t hurt make it available to the cows now.

Also need to get some ‘Stabil’ treated fuel into the gas operated equipment.  This includes:  tiller, cultivator, log spliter, zero turn mower, weed-eater, chainsaws, auger, boat, etc.  What runs on diesel will be OK. 

I’ve worked around the idiots at the Alabama department of motor vehicles and have gotten the 2019 stickers for the boat.  I wanted to make sure that I had the boat registered in Alabama because all of the lakes and water ways are about 10 miles south of my home in Tennessee.  Before I bought the boat and initially registered it in Alabama (while I lived in Alabama) I was certain that I did not need to be a resident in order to do so.  Unfortunately the folk at the county motor vehicle office cannot either read or understand their own regulations.  So I renewed the registration on line, used my Tennessee address and Tennessee Drivers License, and had the stickers in a week.  Really need to find the time to hunt down the Crappie, I hear they actually want to be caught right now.

Stick with me folks, will be hitting on all cylinders again shortly.


From a Navy Veteran

I stopped by the Ford Dealership yesterday, for a look at the new 2019 F-150 aluminum pickup. Just for fun, I took it out for a test drive. I wanted to sense that new truck “feel” before they become old.

The salesperson (a nice looking lady wearing a “RESIST”lapel pin) sat in the passenger seat next to me, describing the truck and all its “wonderful” options. The seats were of particular interest. She explained that the seats directed warm air to your butt in the winter and directed cool air to your butt in the summer heat.

Feeling like messing with her, I mentioned that this must be a CONSERVATIVE truck. Looking a bit angry, she asked why I thought it was a CONSERVATIVE truck. I explained, “If it were a LIBERAL truck, the seats would just blow smoke up your ass year-round!”

I had to walk back to the dealership but it was worth it.

Ron Cameron on the Independence of Thomas

Those who argue that Gos. Thom. is dependent on the Synoptics not only must explain the differences in wording and order, but also give a reason for Gos. Thom.‘s choice of genre and the absence of the gospels’ narrative material in the text. To assert, for example, that Gos.Thom. erased the passion narratives because Gnosticism was concerned solely with a redeeming message contained in words of revelation (Haenchen 1961: 11)is simply not convincing, since the Apocryphon of James (NHC I, 2), the Second treatise of the Great Seth (NHC VII, 2), and the Apocalypse of Peter(NHC VII, 3) all indicate that sayings of and stories about the death and resurrection of Jesus were reinterpreted by various gnostic groups. For any theory of dependence of Gos. Thom. on the NT to be made plausible, one must show that the variations in form and content of their individual sayings,together with the differences in genre and structure of their entire texts, are intertial modifications of their respective parallels, designed to serve a particular purpose.

Quote of the Day

“I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.”

– General Douglas MacArthur

Does Thomas Rely on the Synoptics?

Patterson:  If Thomas were dependent upon the synoptic gospels, it would be possible to detect in the case of every Thomas-synoptic parallel the same tradition-historical development behind both the Thomas version of the saying and one or more of the synoptic versions. That is, Thomas’ author/editor, in taking up the synoptic version, would have inherited all of the accumulated tradition-historical baggage owned by the synoptic text, and then added to it his or her own redactional twist. This is not the case. 

Rather than reflecting the same tradition-historical development that stands behind their synoptic counterparts, these Thomas sayings seem to be the product of a tradition-history which, though exhibiting the same tendencies operative within the synoptic tradition, is in its own specific details quite unique. This means, of course, that these sayings are not dependent upon their synoptic counterparts, but rather derive from a parallel and separate tradition.

Patterson on the Timing of Thomas

Stephen J. Patterson:  While the cumulative nature of the sayings collection understandably makes the Gospel of Thomas difficult to date with precision, several factors weigh in favor of a date well before the end of the first century: the way in which Thomas appeals to the authority of particular prominent figures (Thomas, James) against the competing claims of others (Peter, Matthew); in genre, the sayings collection, which seems to have declined in importance after the emergence of the more biographical and dialogical forms near the end of the first century; and its primitive christology, which seems to presuppose a theological climate even more primitive than the later stages of the synoptic sayings gospel, Q.

Together these factors suggest a date for Thomas in the vicinity of 70-80 C.E. As for its provenance, while it is possible, even likely, that an early version of this collection associated with James circulated in the environs of Jerusalem, the Gospel of Thomas in more or less its present state comes from eastern Syria, where the popularity of the apostle Thomas (Judas Didymos Thomas) is well attested.

Don’t Lecture America on Veterans Day

French President Macron led tributes to the millions of soldiers killed in World War One on Sunday, using an emotional ceremony in Paris attended by scores of world leaders to warn against nationalism a century on from the conflict.

Macron spoke bluntly of the threat from nationalism, calling it a betrayal of moral values. He said:

Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism: nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism,” Macron said. “When we say ‘our interests come first, those of others don’t matter’, we erase the very thing that a nation holds most precious, that which gives it life and makes it great: its moral values.”

A quick check of the dictionary shows that Macron is full of it.  But beyond that, how dare he criticize the leader of the nation that pulled French bacon from the fire in two world wars.

pa·tri·ot·ism
the quality of being patriotic; devotion to and vigorous support for one’s country:

na·​tion·​al·​ism
loyalty and devotion to a nation

The Followers of Thomas’ Gospel

The author of the Gospel of Thomas understood Jesus as a teacher who spoke with authority.  The gospel celebrated his memory by preserving sayings in his name that sanctioned the formation of a distinctive community. The gospel situates its follower’s position within the Christian tradition as an independent movement.  This movement persisted over the course of several generations without becoming an apocalyptic sect or attempting to convert a following.  Even so, the gospel maintained its autonomy and distinct identity.  In Thomas, Jesus was characterized as the embodiment of wisdom; his words, which could harness the very power of the universe, offered a path of ‘knowing’ as an investment of the imagination.

Followers of this gospel would have structured their society such that processes were developed where wisdom, insight and research could flourish.  It seems logical the gospel, to this group, charted a the course to salvation as a study in interpretation of the sayings it provides.  It provided the elixir of life to those for whom the secret of the kingdom is disclosed in the interpretation of Jesus’ words.

The 51st Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Gospel of Thomas Coptic Text

Blatz:  His disciples said to him: On what day will the rest of the dead come into being, and on what day will the new world come? He said to them: What you await has come, but you do not know it.

Layton:  His disciples said to him, “When will the repose of the dead come to pass, and when will the new world come?” He said to them, “That (repose) which you (plur.) are waiting for has come, but for your part you do not recognize it.”

Doresse:  His disciples said to him: “On what day shall rest come to those who are dead, and on what day shall the new world come?” He said to them: “This <rest> that you wait for has (already) come, and you have not recognised it.”

91st Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Three translations of this interesting saying:   

Blatz:  They said to him: Tell us who you are, that we may believe in you. He said to them: You test the face of the sky and of the earth, and him who is before you you have not known, and you do not know (how) to test this moment.

Layton: They said to him, “Tell us who you are, so that we might believe in you.” He said to them, “You (plur.) are testing the face of heaven and earth, and you have not recognized the one who is in your presence! And you do not recognize how to test the present time.”

Doresse: They said to him: “Tell us who thou art that we may believe in thee.” He said to them: “You examine the appearance of heaven and earth, but He who is in front of you you do not recognize, and this moment you know not how to examine!”

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Trump @War Documentary: A Film by Steven K. Bannon. 

Introduction below:

2016 marked a revolution in American politics when a political novice upended the entrenched political classes on both sides of the aisle, and achieved a stunning victory for the forgotten men and women of the nation. Running on a common-sense platform of America First, a revitalized economy, tax cuts, a reinvigorated foreign policy, and a promise to reestablish American sovereignty with immigration reforms, Donald Trump ignited a dormant passion in the hearts of his supporters, and won the presidency in what was arguably the most significant election campaigns in our nation’s history.

Gospel of Thomas Notes

One of the great things about the Gospel of Thomas is that no body of man has had 2000 years to work it over, twist it, or weaponize it to support their view or to support their motives.  Everything within the Gospel of Thomas is compared to the canonical gospels, and beyond weighing the truthiness of Thomas, it also introduces an new introspection into the other gospels as well.   More on that later.  Stevan Davies has written extensively on The Gospel of Thomas, and one his observations strikes me as extremely important.  He says: 

John’s Gospel contrasts this world with another world from which Jesus comes (cf., e.g., 8:23; 17:13-19). Thomas is not dualistic in this sense. For Thomas there is no contrast between this world and another world; rather Thomas contrasts this world as apprehended properly with this world not apprehended properly. Thomas is replete with sayings contrasting the condition of people whodo and who do not apprehend the world through the primordial light of the beginning. Those who do are full; those who do not are empty (Gos. Thom. 28). Those who do are united and filled with light; those who do not are divided and in darkness (saying 61). Those who do are wealthy (sayings 85, 110); those who do not are in poverty (saying 3). Those who do drink from Jesus and become like Jesus (sayings 13, 108); those who do not are drunk and do not pay attention to Jesus (saying 28).

46th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

There is such great difference between the several translations of this verse, I thought it best to post 4 of them for your consideration. 

Lambdin:  Jesus said, “Among those born of women, from Adam until John the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said, whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to John.”

Blatz: Jesus said: From Adam to John the Baptist there is among the children of women none higher than John the Baptist, for his eyes were not destroyed (?). But I have said: Whoever among you becomes small will know the kingdom and will be higher than John.

Layton: Jesus said, “From Adam unto John the Baptist there has been none among the offspring of women who has been more exalted than John the Baptist, so that such a person’s eyes might be broken. But I have said that whoever among you (plur.) becomes a little one will become acquainted with the kingdom, and will become more exalted than John.”

Doresse:  Jesus says: “From Adam to John the Baptist, among those who have been born of women, there is none greater than John the Baptist! But for fear that the eyes <of such a one> should be lost I have said: He who among you shall be the small<est> shall know the Kingdom and be higher than John!”

11th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Jesus said, “This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?”

21st Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Mary said to Jesus, “Whom are your disciples like?”

He said, “They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, ‘Let us have back our field.’ They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them.

Therefore I say, if the owner of a house knows that the thief is coming, he will begin his vigil before he comes and will not let him dig through into his house of his domain to carry away his goods. You, then, be on your guard against the world. Arm yourselves with great strength lest the robbers find a way to come to you, for the difficulty which you expect will (surely) materialize.

Let there be among you a man of understanding. When the grain ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand and reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear.”

50th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Jesus said, “If they say to you, ‘Where did you come from?’, say to them, ‘We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image’.

If they say to you, ‘Is it you?’, say, ‘We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.’

If they ask you, ‘What is the sign of your father in you?’, say to them, ‘It is movement and repose.’

13th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Jesus said to his disciples, “Compare me to someone and tell me whom I am like.”

Simon Peter said to him, “You are like a righteous angel.”

Matthew said to him, “You are like a wise philosopher.”

Thomas said to him, “Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom you are like.” 

Jesus said, “I am not your master. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring which I have measured out.” And he took him and withdrew and told him three things.

When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him, “What did Jesus say to you?” Thomas said to them, “If I tell you one of the things which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me; a fire will come out of the stones and burn you up.”

Damning by Faint Criticism (vice Praise)

In a brief interview with TMZ at Reagan National Airport, Sen. Graham was asked for his thoughts on a tweet Handler sent Thursday, in which she said Republicans likely “took a sick day today” because it was National Coming Out Day, an annual awareness day for LGBTQ members to celebrate coming out as gay. “Looking at you @LindseyGrahamSC,” Handler added, suggesting the senator planned to reveal he is gay to colleagues on the Hill.

“I don’t think about much about what she says at all,” Graham said of Handler’s tweet. “If she wants to live her life that way, it’s up to her.”

“A lot of people struggle with that issue, do you think she’s equating homosexuality with being evil?” the cameraman asked the lawmaker.

“She knows zero about me. To the extent that this matters, I’m not gay,” Graham replied. “These comments, they don’t reflect well on her. I don’t know how this makes us a better country. That’s up to her, not me.”

TMZ asked Graham if he thought making jokes about one’s sexuality was the “lowest kind of bar” in today’s culture. “Yeah, I just think we’re moving on from that,” Republican said as he made his way to his gate.

“Belittling people is not as fun as it used to be and that’s a good thing.”

18th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

The disciples said to Jesus, “Tell us how our end will be.” Jesus said, “Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be. Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death.”

Roll Tide

As usual, things turned out just fine for the top-ranked Crimson Tide.

Tagovailoa passed for 265 yards and three touchdowns but didn’t return after aggravating a right knee injury in No. 1 Alabama’s 39-10 victory over Missouri on Saturday night.

The Tide (7-0, 4-0 Southeastern Conference) shrugged off another would-be challenger in the league, but the star quarterback went down after sliding at the end of a run in the third quarter. 

“Tua could have went back in the game,” Tide coach Nick Saban said. “He wanted to go back in the game. I didn’t think it was worth it.” 

The only thing Yahoo gets right is sports.  More college football results here.

Gospel of Thomas: 11th Saying

Jesus said, “This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?”

11th Saying in the Gospel of Thomas

Contending with Human Passions

We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

– John Adams

How ‘Truth’ is Shaped.

Of the roughly three hundred bishops in attendance at the Council of Nicea, two bishops did not sign the Nicene Creed that condemned Arianism.  Emperor Constantine also ordered a penalty of death for those who refused to surrender the Arian writings, his words:

“In addition, if any writing composed by Arius should be found, it should be handed over to the flames, so that not only will the wickedness of his teaching be obliterated, but nothing will be left even to remind anyone of him. And I hereby make a public order, that if someone should be discovered to have hidden a writing composed by Arius, and not to have immediately brought it forward and destroyed it by fire, his penalty shall be death. As soon as he is discovered in this offence, he shall be submitted for capital punishment.

Emperor Constantine against the Arians

Einstein on God

Your question is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist [one who believes that God’s divinity is manifested in all of Creation]. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds.

May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God.

We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations. 

I am fascinated by Spinoza’s Pantheism. I admire even more his contributions to modern thought. Spinoza is the greatest of modern philosophers, because he is the first philosopher who deals with the soul and the body as one, not as two separate things.” –

Albert Einstein

Democratic Soy Boy Arrested For ‘Doxing’

According to the U.S. Capitol Police, Cosko has been charged with Making Public Restricted Personal Information; Witness Tampering; Threats in Interstate Communications; Unauthorized Access of a Government Computer; Identity Theft; Second Degree Burglary and Unlawful Entry—more charges may be forthcoming.

Public records show Cosko has worked for several Democrat Senators on Capitol Hill, including, U.S. Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH), Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), and Sheila Jackson Lee (D -TX),

Deep

A few days ago I jotted down a my thoughts on the first few words of Saying 3 in the Gospel of Thomas and posted them on this site.  Since then, almost daily, I’ve ponder on the balance of the saying.   Here is what I came up with:  It’s deep!  The full saying is below:

(3) Jesus said, “If those who lead you say to you, ‘See, the kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, ‘It is in the sea,’ then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.”

Post Prep– The Long Game

There is no shortage of good planning resources for those who wish to prepare for SHTF scenarios.  These sites provide planning suggestions for events that range in scale from short term needs driven by natural disaster through a total, long term, societal collapse.  What would the world look like after a collapse?  Superficially, it may look like Slab City.  This ‘City’ has been called the last free place on earth. It has no rules(laws). Only consequence and a few customs for dealing with those consequences.  This bizarre, lawless land in the California desert is inhabited by drug addicts, eccentrics, army vets, hippies and just plain old weirdos.

Around the Farm

After a couple of days of much needed rain it dried out on Saturday and Sunday.  The break in weather gave me the opportunity to shore up the slope near the front of my house.  I moved 10 railroad ties into position and created a a series of small retaining walls that tiered the 3 foot drop.  Will move dirt into my creation in the next few days. 

A Step Back

Regardless of which side of the Kavanaugh confirmation (or for that matter any of the political activities in the U.S.,) you sympathize with, I’m pretty sure you are going be dissatisfied with the outcome; that’s just our new ‘state of nature’.  Here is a thought from the 42nd Saying in the Gospel of Thomas that may keep you from getting sucked in to madness:

Jesus said, “Become passers-by”.

Enjoy both the journey and the show.

Precedence

The Nag Hammadi (Coptic) version of the The Third Saying in the Gospel of Thomas bears a striking difference with that found in the Oxyrhynchus (Greek) Fragment.  Both are a thought provoking and complex series of phrases, however, the Coptic version begins with what could be an admonishment to misguided teachers or a guide to us on how to evaluate the worthiness of a teacher.    The beginning of both are below:

Coptic:  (3) Jesus said: If those who lead you say to you: See, the kingdom is in heaven, then the birds of the heaven will go before you; if they say to you: It is in the sea, then the fish will go before you. But the kingdom…

 Greek: (3) Jesus said, “[If] those who lead you [say to you, ‘See] , the kingdom is in the sky,’ then the birds of the sky [will precede you. If they say that] it is under the earth, then the fish of the sea [will enter it, preceding] you. And, the [kingdom…

While I believe the ‘but’ and the ‘and’ are important distinctions, what is most intriguing (and appearing in both) is the concept of ‘precedence’.  I do suppose there is great significance to this.